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Another one with an interesting description

Post by removeduser185 » Fri Nov 20, 2020 7:17 pm

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Land-Rover-L ... SwW05ft4lk
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"You are looking at what must be one of the finest Land Rover Series 111 Lightweights available! It is a 1976 Series 111 12 volt model and it has covered a genuine 49,000 miles in its whole life! It is in superb original, unmolested condition. The chassis, bulkhead and rear cross member are all in A1 condition. The bodywork is exceptional and the interior is lovely and clean. It starts on the button and drives like a new Series 111 Lightweight! ... released and registered in October 2018."

It goes on. But, it looks like quite a Bitsa to me. Sad that it is attracting buyers - clearly unaware of what they're bidding on.

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Re: Another one with an interesting description

Post by alz » Fri Nov 20, 2020 8:12 pm

On DVLA check on MOT history it comes up as a Land Rover 88.

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Re: Another one with an interesting description

Post by fv1620 » Fri Nov 20, 2020 8:24 pm

Apparently been in LROI if you feel that is a recommendation.

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Re: Another one with an interesting description

Post by Bob Fell » Fri Nov 20, 2020 8:35 pm

Fred wrote:
Fri Nov 20, 2020 7:17 pm
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Land-Rover-L ... SwW05ft4lk
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"You are looking at what must be one of the finest Land Rover Series 111 Lightweights available! It is a 1976 Series 111 12 volt model and it has covered a genuine 49,000 miles in its whole life! It is in superb original, unmolested condition. The chassis, bulkhead and rear cross member are all in A1 condition. The bodywork is exceptional and the interior is lovely and clean. It starts on the button and drives like a new Series 111 Lightweight! ... released and registered in October 2018."

It goes on. But, it looks like quite a Bitsa to me. Sad that it is attracting buyers - clearly unaware of what they're bidding on.
Regrettably Fred, those of us that know these vehicles from our past and what is right or wrong are getting fewer and the uninitiated through no fault of their own are getting conned by unscrupulous sellers, and those who, to be fair in a few cases, maybe have no clue of right or wrong of the vehicle provenance in the first place.
Yes it's a Bitsa to me.
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Re: Another one with an interesting description

Post by Johnsboy » Fri Nov 20, 2020 9:02 pm

I like this bit. “The chassis, bulkhead and rear cross member are all in A1 condition”
Except for the big patch welded on the n/s footwell!!

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Re: Another one with an interesting description

Post by removeduser185 » Sun Nov 22, 2020 8:52 pm

alz wrote:
Fri Nov 20, 2020 8:12 pm
On DVLA check on MOT history it comes up as a Land Rover 88.
Yes - in "bronze" - must look smart! And no MoT history prior to 2018. Well, it certainly wasn't sold out of the military in 2018 cos the B Card says so. So what has it been doing? I suspect it's been built up from parts, hence the keenness to get "provenance" for it - the heritage certificate, B Card and certificate from er, hem The Military Lightweight Club! The trouble is none of that is provenance for the vehicle only for the chassis number - which is just as likely to have come from a bulkhead/seatbox plate bought for £350 on eBay. It would be interesting to see whether there is a chassis number on the chassis and, if so, what it is. I wish there was a way of contacting DVLA to draw their attention to these scammers on eBay who sell plates and V5s. Sadly, I read someone suggesting such a solution to a fellow member on HMVF the other day who was having trouble registering his CVR(T). Enough! Rant over, normal service will be resumed as soon as possible.

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Re: Another one with an interesting description

Post by Johnsboy » Wed Dec 02, 2020 5:11 pm

Just had another look at this. Look at the rear crossmember, it started out as a civvy style one and then had some major fabrication done to the ends to make it try are resemble a military one.

Just looks weird and wrong

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Re: Another one with an interesting description

Post by Bob Fell » Wed Dec 02, 2020 7:11 pm

Johnsboy wrote:
Wed Dec 02, 2020 5:11 pm
Just had another look at this. Look at the rear crossmember, it started out as a civvy style one and then had some major fabrication done to the ends to make it try are resemble a military one.

Just looks weird and wrong
Totally agree.
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Re: Another one with an interesting description

Post by fv1620 » Wed Dec 02, 2020 7:57 pm

Been relisted, so wasn't £10,445.00 [36 bids] enough?
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Re: Another one with an interesting description

Post by removeduser185 » Wed Dec 02, 2020 9:32 pm

No, it failed to make his reserve! The thing is, he knows perfectly well it isn't what he claims it to be. He's a Land Rover dealer (so he says), at least he has one or two Land Rovers for sale, so he should know something about the marque. If he is confident enough to come up with all that twaddle he is doing so knowing it not to be the case - what Lightweight was retired in 2018 for a start? A quick glance by him on the internet would show that to be rubbish. And so it goes on. No, he knows what he is doing and he is doing it anyway, in the knowledge that some gullible fool will part with his cash and be disappointed when, eventually, he discovers that what he has actually bought is worth about £6,000 tops.

But, as you know, this sort of deceit really annoys me - as does the selling of V5s and dataplates - because the vendor isn't daft, he knows full well that they will go to get another vehicle on the road on a false identity. And given that these vehicles are over 40 there is no reason anyone will look at them and query it. I wanted to raise the matter with DVLA, but there is no way off accessing them - they have a contact proforma which permits only certain issues to be raised. I complained, but was wasting my time. I read an article in a paper the other day which expressed surprise that there are more classic cars on the road now than there were 5 years ago - but the article didn't make the link to the free road tax and no MoT for vehicles over 40. I just wonder how many of these "classics" are actually merely bangers.

Anyway... keep safe!

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