Rattler's 2a civvy restoration project
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Re: Rattler's 2a civvy restoration project
It sure is, can't wait to get it finished though, was hoping for the end of the year but think it will be early next year now 
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Graham
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Roll on next Friday, get my bonus and get my new turbo, it feels like ages since I last worked on the 2a painting and fitting the manifolds 
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Wow I've just got round to ordering my new 300tdi turbo from paddocks aswell as an EGR valve blanking plate kit from ebay 
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Re: Rattler's 2a civvy restoration project
The new engine is certainly something to look forward to, but I'd think carefully about the EGR blanking plate. I know there are lots of people who have removed EGRs, DPFs and/or fitted blanking plates and the various supporting services are well advertised, but, as you have raised it in this forum, it is only fair that one of us raises the downside. Things don't appear to be 100% clear legally - note, in the extract below, the use of the term "almost invariably" but, in the event that you are judged to have contravened the requirement you will fail an MoT, or worse, run the risk of having broken the law and, because the modification is not legal, nor notified to, and approved by, your insurer, you would not be covered and, therefore, be driving while uninsured.
This is an extract from a thread on the subject on the internet:
"Car Mechanics (the magazine, I presume) asked the DVSA for their response to fitting an EGR blanking valve and they said : "DVSA's priority is to help you keep your vehicle safe to drive, ensuring that it meets required roadworthiness and environmental standards. Vehicles may fail the MoT where emissions control equipment has been tampered with but irrespective of the MoT such modification is an offence*. DVSA continues to work with DfT to pursue such offences, including taking disciplinary action against any MoT garages found to be conducting modifications."
* Road vehicles (construction and use) regulations (Regulation 61a(3)). Removal of an EGR valve, diesel particulate filter etc. will almost invariably contravene these requirements, making the vehicle illegal for road use. The potential penalties for failing to comply with Regulation 61a are fines of up to £1000 for a car or £2500 for a light goods vehicle."
Sorry to pour water on your ambition and others may feel differently. But, have a read on the internet - recent articles are more valuable than older ones as changes to the legislation have been introduced since, I think, 2014.
Fred
This is an extract from a thread on the subject on the internet:
"Car Mechanics (the magazine, I presume) asked the DVSA for their response to fitting an EGR blanking valve and they said : "DVSA's priority is to help you keep your vehicle safe to drive, ensuring that it meets required roadworthiness and environmental standards. Vehicles may fail the MoT where emissions control equipment has been tampered with but irrespective of the MoT such modification is an offence*. DVSA continues to work with DfT to pursue such offences, including taking disciplinary action against any MoT garages found to be conducting modifications."
* Road vehicles (construction and use) regulations (Regulation 61a(3)). Removal of an EGR valve, diesel particulate filter etc. will almost invariably contravene these requirements, making the vehicle illegal for road use. The potential penalties for failing to comply with Regulation 61a are fines of up to £1000 for a car or £2500 for a light goods vehicle."
Sorry to pour water on your ambition and others may feel differently. But, have a read on the internet - recent articles are more valuable than older ones as changes to the legislation have been introduced since, I think, 2014.
Fred
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Re: Rattler's 2a civvy restoration project
Ok its a 1970 2a civvy petrol currently in the middle of restoration aswell as being converted to a Disco 200tdi engine ( no EGR valve fitted ) as the 200tdi engine doesn't have an EGR valve and to make the conversion easier I have fitted a 300tdi exhaust manifold and need to blank the hole off where the EGR valve would be so I don't really understand what you are sayingFred wrote: ↑Fri Mar 02, 2018 9:09 pmThe new engine is certainly something to look forward to, but I'd think carefully about the EGR blanking plate. I know there are lots of people who have removed EGRs, DPFs and/or fitted blanking plates and the various supporting services are well advertised, but, as you have raised it in this forum, it is only fair that one of us raises the downside. Things don't appear to be 100% clear legally - note, in the extract below, the use of the term "almost invariably" but, in the event that you are judged to have contravened the requirement you will fail an MoT, or worse, run the risk of having broken the law and, because the modification is not legal, nor notified to, and approved by, your insurer, you would not be covered and, therefore, be driving while uninsured.
This is an extract from a thread on the subject on the internet:
"Car Mechanics (the magazine, I presume) asked the DVSA for their response to fitting an EGR blanking valve and they said : "DVSA's priority is to help you keep your vehicle safe to drive, ensuring that it meets required roadworthiness and environmental standards. Vehicles may fail the MoT where emissions control equipment has been tampered with but irrespective of the MoT such modification is an offence*. DVSA continues to work with DfT to pursue such offences, including taking disciplinary action against any MoT garages found to be conducting modifications."
* Road vehicles (construction and use) regulations (Regulation 61a(3)). Removal of an EGR valve, diesel particulate filter etc. will almost invariably contravene these requirements, making the vehicle illegal for road use. The potential penalties for failing to comply with Regulation 61a are fines of up to £1000 for a car or £2500 for a light goods vehicle."
Sorry to pour water on your ambition and others may feel differently. But, have a read on the internet - recent articles are more valuable than older ones as changes to the legislation have been introduced since, I think, 2014.
Fred
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My new 300tdi turbo arrived yesterday and just waiting for the EGR valve blanking plate to arrive then I can fit everything in one go 
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Graham
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Re: Rattler's 2a civvy restoration project
You should be fine if its a 200TDI as no ECU to control an EGR anyways. I run a 200TDI out of a disco but its all 200TDI no change to the manifolds or turbo.
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Graham
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My EGR blanking kit has just arrived so tomorrow I will fit everything 
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