Richards Series III Lightweight resto

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Re: Richards Series III Lightweight resto

Post by Trickyh » Sun May 13, 2018 9:12 pm

Well,

I kind of took Hibbo's advice and went for it today! Adjusted up the brakes, fitted the mirrors and secured the tailgate. Took it 1/2 mile to the nearest garage and half filled the left tank, then took it for a spin around some back lanes...

To say the steering is a bit vague is an understatement! Blimey! I felt like I was in charge of 4wd pinball machine! Is this normal?? Apart from the odd bit of stalling, grinding the odd gear and bashing my right elbow, everything else was all good ! 8-) Not sure if il'll make it to Overlord, but def be there for W&P
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Re: Richards Series III Lightweight resto

Post by Ridgy » Mon May 14, 2018 9:16 pm

Well done!

Steering - yeah, they're not great but you get used to it! Assume you've been through all the components during your rebuild, everything's in good order and the steering box and tracking all adjusted? Mine was toeing out miles when i first bought it and it followed every bump.

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Re: Richards Series III Lightweight resto

Post by Fred » Mon May 14, 2018 9:41 pm

Your steering shouldn't be that bad. It won't be as precise as a modern car with power assistance, but it should be perfectly capable of maintaining a straight line without undue difficulty. Before I refurbished mine, it was actually very precise, I only hope it will be again now I have renewed the steering relay, track rods et al.
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Re: Richards Series III Lightweight resto

Post by Jon S » Mon May 14, 2018 9:49 pm

I would agree with Fred. If the steering components are in good order it should steer true and feel precise and quite light considering its a mechanical system.

Its such an important part of the vehicle so I would suggest go through the whole system and check its all to spec. Including as Fred mentioned, that the tracking is set correctly and that the tyres are not worn unevenly.

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Re: Richards Series III Lightweight resto

Post by Trickyh » Wed May 16, 2018 11:54 am

Thanks for the advice guys, and good to know it shouldn't be a wandering beast!

I will double check all of the linkages again this weekend before taking it to the shop for its pre mot check.

Is toe in the same as for the civvy Series III's? 1.2-2.4mm in new money?
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Re: Richards Series III Lightweight resto

Post by BYL » Sat May 19, 2018 10:55 pm

I'd agree with others about slack in the steering. When I first got '59 I discovered I'd been living with slack steering on BYL for 20 years which I'd always put down to Landie steering being 'agricultural'. I'd highly recommend having someone else turn the wheel in both directions so you can have a look at how all the linkages and joints are working with each other. I had to do that to discover on '42 that the bottom arm off the compensator was loose on the splines despite the bolt being tight.
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Re: Richards Series III Lightweight resto

Post by Trickyh » Sun May 20, 2018 9:03 am

So far I have found the nearside shackle U bolts were loose and I've got play in the wheel bearings. So I'll sort that today. I'll get it down to the shop and have a second pair of eyes go over everything.

Other issue I have is it constantly stalling when coming to a junction. Played with the idle bleed screw and throttle stop but made the engine run rough as.. hmmm

On a high note, Went through the new DVLA tax /mot procedure and it's a piece of piss 8-)
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Re: Richards Series III Lightweight resto

Post by Trickyh » Mon Aug 20, 2018 9:57 am

So having made a successful run to W&P it highlighted a few outstanding issues with the Landy.

a) The steering was still a bit vague.. Sidders gave me a few pointers with the steering relay and steering box and they seem to have done the trick (cheers mate!)

b) She was overheating badly in stationary traffic. It even caused me to break down in the registration queue and caused me the embarrassment of being dragged out of line by a telehandler. Luckily Richard (Landie68) came to my rescue and I jump started it off the tow and came into camp under my own steam. I have since fitted the plastic duct (fitted) and obtained an 8 blade fan, which unfortunately doesn't fit without an adaptor (so that's on hold)

c) The rear parabolics were comically high. I messed around with some tracking wedges but this wasn't working, so I bit the bullet and bought proper 7 leaf springs (mention on another thread) and they seem to have sorted it.

d) The satin Deep Bronze Green supplied by paints4trade was crap. The finish wasn't lasting at all. You could easily drag a nail through it and create a scratch.
After the dust from W&P and having the dogs in the back it looked like i'd never restored the Landy in the first place!

So, after seeing the impressive results of Damians Cyprus paint job, It has spurred me on to ditch the DBG and go NATO matt green and black... My reasoning is that it is a colour i'm more happier with. The scratches won't matter so much and it will give it the 'look' i'm after. So I've stuck with paints4trade for compatibility and bought 2.5 litres each of NATO green and black.

For authenticity i've gone full squaddie and applying it with a 4'' roller and brush, and so far I've been really impressed with the results. I still need to finish the fiddly interior and scuttle, but this is what it looks like after 2 coats.. 1 more to go, then the black 8-)
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Re: Richards Series III Lightweight resto

Post by Sidders101 » Mon Aug 20, 2018 11:19 am

Awesome Tricky..looks the bizz mate..sorry to hear of your woes with the DBG ...mine took ages to dry but the final results were satisfactory...in truth any Matt finish paint will highlight such things as fingernail scratch..this is why I swipe the entire surface with petroleum jelly...it's not the paint scratching..it's the very fibres of the fingernail that you see...the petroleum jelly covers these marks beautifully and acts as a barrier to rain , mud etc..and easily washable ..or wipe able .
Really it should be NATO Matt green as you say..I just prefer the darker DBG Matt...it goes back to my love for the dark green of the ferrets when I used to stare at them in admiration in the 70's
Next task is to find you some correct rear drive shafts so you can fit the flat end caps....or is it the correct front drive shaft so you can fit the later cone type..?.
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Re: Richards Series III Lightweight resto

Post by Trickyh » Tue Aug 28, 2018 10:04 am

So 2.5 litres of Nato green and only about 200ml of Matt Black she looks like this :D
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Personally I am surprised at how good a finish you can get from a 4'' Gloss roller. Does take about 4 coats though to build the colour and get rid of the roller/brush marks..
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